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by mschuster91 3 days ago
Apple does have some good counter arguments. Where there is data, there will be bad actors who want that data - and I trust Apple far more to behave than I trust some random shell company being run by some secret service.

By definition, an AI assistant needs read-write access to all your data. We've seen enough reports of badly implemented AI here, we've seen enough scammers exploiting data troughs...
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arghwhat 2 days ago
> Apple does have some good counter arguments. Where there is data, there will be bad actors who want that data - and I trust Apple far more to behave than I trust some random shell company being run by some secret service.

As a EU citizen, sharing your data between Apple and Google which puts said data under free-for-all US intelligence access - which is known to have "questionable" habits and give basically no rights or insight as a to-them foreign citizen - is effectively trusting "some secret service".

To be clear, I am not one to fear use Apple for intelligence reasons, but not through a pretense that my data is safe from it, and certainly not because I believe it would be safer than using, say, a service based in Germany or France.

I'm more concerned with data brokers trading personal data out in the open, collected with minimal control from all the other apps and webpages we use throughout our day.

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necovek 3 days ago
Apple is clearly virtue-signalling. They will give access to other assistants through Trust Zone (or whatever it's called), but their assistant gets direct access to system services?

If Trust Zone is usable for other assistants, it is usable for Siri AI too: that's the whole idea behind DMA.

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calgoo 3 days ago
sure, but google will still get all your queries, so when you ask about something specific, you dont think they will figure out you are John Smith, on street X, asking about the ice cream shop down the street?
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mschuster91 2 days ago
> sure, but google will still get all your queries,

They do not. Per Apple's documentation, they run on Apple's Private Compute Cloud [1] - while part of Google's GCP, full confidentiality is guaranteed that even Apple itself is not able to access user data.

That's more of an effort than I see any single competitor even attempting.

[1] https://security.apple.com/blog/expanding-pcc/

[2] https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/introducing-third...

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