[RickJWagner]

Something that would help a great deal would be some very public, clearly worded predictions about future events that should happen.

Climate scientists could help convince skeptics by correctly predicting future events. Skeptics could vet the predictions immediately to avoid late refutations. They’d look foolish if they tried to downplay the events if they didn’t raise concerns at the time they were predicted.

Looking fairly at things, predictions along the lines of ‘An inconvenient truth’ did not help. ( A UK high court ruling found at least 9 errors or exaggerations in the film. )

Demonstrating predictability should increase acceptance.

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> clearly worded predictions about future events that should happen.

These are already out there. Extreme weather events are happening with all increasing frequency. But as with the slow boiled frog, when is it a crisis? The denier just claims we have always had extreme weather events, and they are correct (and this sidesteps the argument).

[RickJWagner]

In your opinion, which list is the most credible? ( I.e. do you have a web link that shows a list of predictions you consider highly credible ? )

[frm88]

Astrum Earth on Youtube has a couple of videos on climate change in general and the turning of the AMOC in particular with both, schientific explanations and graphs and predictions on the outcome. I found it a reliable source of information, even if they make dramatic thumbnails and music. More to the point, they list a lot of sources you can follow up on.

https://www.youtube.com/@AstrumEarth

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Sea level rise is a key problem for New Zealand - we have a lot of coast.

At beaches there are poles showing predicted sea levels at various time points.

There are lots of sites that show various predictions for sea level rises for NZ, showing predictions and reality. Eg: https://www.sealevel.nz/Auckland.html

[RickJWagner]

Thanks for that— the poles sound like a great idea.

Off topic, I love a New Zealand podcast called “Backyard Bluegrass”. The host is a walking encyclopedia of roots music, and he’s got great presentation skills.