[andrewmutz]

When a person relocates to a country where their labor is more productive, a large amount of new economic value is created. Much of that value is captured by the migrant through higher earnings, but a lot also accrues to the people in the community they join.

So an engineer joining a country that already has engineers still creates a ton of value in the destination country

[Avicebron]

And if they displace someone trying to join the engineering workforce say right out of school? What about housing?

[andrewmutz]

There is no fixed demand for jobs, nor fixed supply of housing. Immigrant consumption creates a lot of jobs and immigrant labor creates a lot of housing

[tadfisher]

Look up the "lump of labour fallacy". The jobs market is not a zero-sum thing.

[Avicebron]

The timescale that the "lump of labour fallacy" operates on, as in the aggregate effects on employement, doesn't necessarily work for most people (individually).

Therefore it isn't really a good metric at the scale required to alleviate the problems people are facing.

"Eventually it will work out." Isn't proffering a solution.

[tadfisher]

The aggregate effects on employment caused by immigration work on an identical timescale. If your point is, "people are terrible at blaming individual outcomes on aggregate statistical phenomena", then I agree with you.