[stephbook]

Is this Berlin that decides anything and rolls it out contintent-wide with us in the room right now?

[whstl]

I believe the point was more that Germany can accept lots of immigrants being a large country, and freedom of movement will allow them inside all countries, which can lead to backlash.

[tpm]

And that point is wrong. An immigrant with a legal residence in Germany but no permanent residence permit can't just pack up and go live elsewhere.

[whstl]

Yep, someone points it to GP down below. One needs to apply for immigration again in the next country if they want to travel for more than a vacation.

[rsynnott]

No, that's not how it works, not unless they naturalise.

[includenotfound]

Spain is legalizing 500k immigrants: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/spain/spain-legalizing-half-mi...

Not quite Berlin, but same effect: nearly indiscriminate influx of poorly vetted immigrants that can soon travel all around Europe.

So yes, it's with us in the room, just not right now, but very soon.

[inigyou]

Berlin is basically forcing the EU's hand regarding the Gaza war, so, yes?

[SiempreViernes]

Only in the same sense that Hungary was dictating Russia and Ukraine policy.

[stephbook]

How is that related to immigration?

> Berlin can basically dictate EU immigration single handedly

That's what I was responding to.

Note the UK left the EU and accepted more immigrants than before. We didn't force them. Hungary and Poland never accepted Syrian immigrants either and they weren't forced to accept them iirc.

[lovich]

Was wondering how long this thread could go before someone made it about the omnicause.