[dmitrygr]

Western nations reducing will DO nothing - it is too small a fraction of greenhouse emissions. The large fraction is coming form india and china. And they do not have electric everything. they don't even have running water in most places.

[rwyinuse]

Your view is outdated. China is building renewable power generation at an extremely high rate, and also exporting cheap solar panels worldwide. China has a higher share of electric vehicles in cities than most of Europe and America does. It appears their emissions are now starting to go down as a result, although the economy keeps growing.

India still has a long way to go, but China is doing the right things. Same can't be said about USA under current administration.

[contingencies]

China's solar industry has some growth pangs right now but will recover: https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/chinas-solar-... (Aug 2025) + https://archive.is/6hCFU + (May) https://www.carbonbrief.org/chart-why-chinas-solar-boom-is-s... (June)

Most individual and collective consumption driving polluting production is overwhelmingly traditional western/first-world economies, though China is catching up.

[budsniffer952]

>Same can't be said about USA under current administration.

The reason half the population won't take climate alarmists seriously are statements like this.

Saying the West, generally, or the US, specifically "aren't doing anything" is ridiculous.

https://ourworldindata.org/profile/co2/united-states

[brewdad]

That chart conveniently ends at the end of the Biden Administration.

[budsniffer952]

Yes. It "conveniently" stops after showing 50 years of declining per captita carbon footprint. The last 4 years are what matter. Classic hacker News take. This is why you will continue to lose.

[lostlogin]

> Western nations reducing will DO nothing

That doesn’t fit my understanding at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhous...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhous...

[triceratops]

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co2-emissions-... Western developed countries have emitted 54% of all CO2 in history.

India and China today emit more than Europe and North America combined. https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions

China's solar panel and battery manufacturing industries are humanity's best chance of "electric everything". Without them we're all cooked.