[zionsati]

deepseek v4 pro - but honestly it is comparable to gpt-5.4-mini, far from GPT5.4 let alone GPT5.5! Its advantage is really just its pricing. I'm going to give Kimi K2.7 a try - with K2.6, even its cloud chat locks up all the time, so it really didn't give me much confidence at all for agentic coding.

[linzhangrun]

I think it is more like a post-training issue. DeepSeek is cheap enough for heavy token use, so it fits Hermes very well.

[zionsati]

I did a bit of digging after this to see if my feeling was accurate, and lo-and-behold: https://deepswe.net/

Look at the gap between gpt5.4-mini vs deepseek v4 pro!