[keane]

For a good example of this (maybe the one you heard?), see WNYC's On the Media segment (aired December 30 or 31, 2004) titled "Pulling Back the Curtain": https://wnyc.org/story/129437-pulling-back-the-curtain/

[loevborg]

Thanks for the link. As a longtime listener, listening to Bob Garfield's voice brought a tear to my eye - I'm a big fan and was sad when he left OTM, as much as I admire Brooke.