[bitwize]

Pretty much the same point I made: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48403908

Their apparent inability to get the basics right makes me severely doubt their claims of self-improving AI. The humans at Anthropic wouldn't know improvement if it landed on their lap and started twerking, and AI cannot do a job without strong human intervention into what the goals and guardrails actually are.

I'm kind of reminded of when Microsoft claimed it took a team of Ph.D.s to write a terminal application that updated at 60fps, and then Casey Muratori did it over a weekend. And this was before AI was writing code in earnest; when LLM-induced brainrot really sets in, civilization is in for a world of fresh hurt: lots more generated code, almost all of it garbage. And the promised AI crossover point where it becomes AGI, or indistinguishable from for software design purposes, recedes into the infinite future.

[andrei_says_]

Reading this it occurs to me that this timeline may be moving toward a future where garbage software, garbage information etc. have become the norm for so long that the number of people who can distinguish trash from quality, or signal from noise, has become negligible.

A true era of ignorance, looking like an ocean of nonsense in which no one can really navigate as it is ungrounded in reality.

Idiocracy presents a naively gentle positive version of such future but there are many darker ones possible.

Kali Yuga, indeed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga

[Papazsazsa]

Ignorance is too generous a word. This is epistemic collapse.

[Retric]

Customers abandon companies that fail.

Remember how they used Brando to water plants and it kills them? Eventually mistakes break critical systems and you fail.

[ozgrakkurt]

This is more because less educated people are coming onto the internet and programming.

World was probably more ignorant before but internet/computers as a space was better because it consisted of a different set of people.

There is still a ton of people that do understand quality and produce high quality stuff obviously

[slopinthebag]

Perhaps, but people don't care that much about a bug with Instagram. Once critical infrastructure starts failing people will take notice.

[_doctor_love]

The pralaya is not far away. Soon Shiva will begin his dance. I give us until 2036.

[kshri24]

Pralaya happens after complete age of Brahma. That would be 100 Brahma years. Or 311.04 trillion human years. We are in the 51st year of Brahma.

Kali Yuga lifespan is 432,000 years. Of which we are 4000+ years into it. So that's another 428,000 years of hell on Earth.

[triyambakam]

Yeah like he said, not far away :D

[_doctor_love]

Yep. Fortunately, it’s easy to learn in this case who is right or wrong. See you guys back in the thread in 2037 if all goes well.

[LargoLasskhyfv]

Roger Bonner - When Shiva Dances (4m22s):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYsVQPVnLxs

Enjoy...….

[ai_slop_hater]

Pretty much the same point I made https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48500537

[rvz]

> I'm kind of reminded of when Microsoft claimed it took a team of Ph.D.s to write a terminal application that updated at 60fps, and then Casey Muratori did it over a weekend.

This is the same Microsoft that is now rewriting the TypeScript type checker, parser and its developer tools in Go after realizing that the bottleneck was...the performance of TypeScript itself, which is a basic compiled vs interpreted difference.

> And this was before AI was writing code in earnest; when LLM-induced brainrot really sets in, civilization is in for a world of fresh hurt: lots more generated code, almost all of it garbage.

Some folks using LLMs wouldn't realize why it makes zero sense to use TS / JS for building performant and optimal applications. This is why people were experiencing significant rendering bugs in terminal apps (they are not designed for that) and slow starts with Claude Code, which was completely vibe coded with Ink.

If you don't understand the basic fundamentals of what you are working on with LLMs and bugs are creeping up left and right, then you are just sinking in your own comprehension debt.

[wasabinator]

Agreed. Watch for a rise in cases of early onset dementia over the next few decades.

[gdjdhdheb]

No, we'll just find harder problems.... Coding is boring now

[Jblx2]

"The Feeling of Power" by Arthur C. Clarke

[SpaceNoodled]

Isaac Asimov, but yes.

[Jblx2]

argh

[panarky]

I watched the video and I wish I could get those 13 minutes of my life back.

He could have done it in 13 seconds instead of 13 minutes: "Anthropic is lying about the effectiveness of agentic loops because there's this one screen flicker bug in Claude Code that took a year to fix."

Yeah, like when United Airlines claims a plane can fly 300 people 6,000 miles they are lying to you.

I can prove they're lying to you because people have been complaining about uncomfortable seats and flight delays for literally decades and those issues still aren't fixed.

[theendisney]

I write little bits of code then test them. If the screen flickers i wouldnt continue until it is solved. If ive missed it and have to hear it from (a) user(s) i would kinda like to fix it imediately. Not always possible but truly annoying things have priority over new things.

If i had unlimited developers at my command. All many times as fast as me.... how can i keep the problem? It would take some huge effort to keep.

The unlimited number of devs would talk about it an unlimited number of times. Not fixing it would be very expensive that way.

[Retric]

He spent that much time and you still misunderstood the direct message and missed the subtext.

The lie is coding is solved, the proof is they had an outstanding coding issue they were working on for over a year while saying coding is solved. There’s a great number of other issues with their own software that disprove their premise, but you only need one counter example to disprove something.

And because you missed it, the subtext was they want you to use loops not because they work but because they burn lots of tokens thus making them more money.

[panarky]

One unresolved bug does not disprove anything.

[slopinthebag]

And saying coding is solved doesn't prove anything either.

[Retric]

A major outstanding software bug for a year proves they have not “solved coding,” which was their claim.

I didn’t chose the words they used, but I can hold them to those words.

[ryan_n]

The point is if "coding is solved" was true, there would not be any unresolved bugs.