[LoganDark]

I tried Kagi, but it never had the results I wanted, while Google did. If Google didn't have them, Kagi wouldn't either. At some point Kagi refunded my subscription price (due to my non-usage) enough times I canceled it -- I love the idea, in fact I purchased Orion Plus Lifetime and I wholeheartedly support their cause, they just simply don't have Google's breadth of index.

(Speaking of Orion, I used it as a daily driver for a while, but it was so unstable I had to switch away because it kept crashing, glitching and exploding in memory usage. Again, I respect the idea so much I made the maximum donation, but it just didn't work well enough for me.)

[skmurphy]

That was my experience as well. Paid for it for a year, it was a clean presentation of a subset of Google results, but when I was really looking for something I would fall back on Google. It's a shame their execution does not match their brand promise.

[LoganDark]

I don't even think it's an issue with their execution. Google just has a moat -- a huge index they won't give to anyone else, developed over nearly three decades, including multiple Internet eras already past -- which would take an inordinate amount of investment (including multiple more decades) to even hope to recreate.

Kagi probably won't get there -- in fact it's likely no one else even can get there -- but they're already somewhere and should only continue to get better.