[lern_too_spel]

I said nothing about gas bills. You should not punish all the children in a murderer's city because the murderer doing bad things means you're allowed to do bad things.

That's not how ethics works. We give the state the ability to mete out punishment in cases where that punishment or the threat of that punishment helps the citizens' safety. Administering collective punishment does the opposite.

[spwa4]

Of course you should. You should try to avoid it, of course, but not at the cost of others.

[lern_too_spel]

I'm sorry, are you saying that you should punish all the children in a murderer's city? Would you like to clarify that?