[smilespray]

And a sample size of one.

[vitally3643]

That's what I said, yes.

[nobodyandproud]

We have counter examples of human pods that never really achieved “civilization”.

What’s missing that make them more akin to orcas or wolves?

[greiskul]

It is possible it is just time. Modern humans are considered to have existed for 300k~ years. Civilizations are about 6k years old.

So who knows. Maybe if you gave them an extra 10k years, they would have achived "civilization". It is not much for the scale of human existance. But it is longer than any of our civilizations has existed for.

[nobodyandproud]

For humans, I wonder if population size and density is also a factor.

That is, if there’s a critical mass and population size.

[asdff]

And makes sense with agriculture and civilization coming together. Agriculture improved the carrying capacity of an acre of land dramatically from what it was from foraging and hunting.

[HarHarVeryFunny]

Written language ?

Got it too easy ?

[nobodyandproud]

It doesn’t have to be writing. At least one culture used ropes and knots.

[HarHarVeryFunny]

I think that (Incas) was more numerical record keeping rather than written language.

What's special about written language (which some existing hunter-gatherer tribes still don't have), as opposed to spoken language, is that it allows cultural knowledge to be spread, stored, accumulated, and built upon.