[fennecfoxy]

Look at how many fuck ups there are with basically no repercussions; the dude is still rich.

Is any more proof needed that if you ride the coat tails of real engineers and have a propensity for screwing other people over that that is what success really is for a lot of people in business?

Just look to the number of huge companies with founding members or integral early members being forced out just as things are getting good ($$$).

[btilly]

This is a take on Elon that I cannot agree with.

I get it. I know how much people want to hate him. And how much fuel he has given for that.

But he's very talented, and really puts in the work. According to people I personally know who work with him closely, he's the real deal.

Doesn't stop him from being an asshole. But you get the bad with the good.

[Fricken]

No, Elon didn't put in a trillion dollars worth of work.

[s1artibartfast]

Nobody did. That's the cool thing about surplus value creation.

You can take $5 of labor, $5 of capital, and make something people will pay $20 for

[Fricken]

Also it takes lies, cheating, and a propensity for murdering women and children, which are the coolest aspects of surplus value creation.

[criddell]

> Look at how many fuck ups there are with basically no repercussions; the dude is still rich.

I read something that put it into perspective for me. Musk's current net worth is ~ $1 trillion. He could mess up and destroy 99% of his wealth and he would still be worth $10 billion.

If he did something stupid again and lost 99% of the remaining 1%, he would still be worth $100 million.

It would take him screwing up a third time and losing 99% once again to be down to a middle-class net worth of $1 million.