[the_lucifer]

Is it that surprising given Deepseek is great enough for most use cases (like implementation) and prices are off by an order of magnitude?

DeepSeek: DeepSeek V4 Flash $0.098/$0.196 DeepSeek: DeepSeek V4 Pro $0.435/$0.87

v/s

Anthropic: Claude Haiku $1/$5 Anthropic: Claude Sonnet $3/$15 Anthropic: Claude Opus $5/$25

Many people (me included) sometimes use Opus-class models to plan then swap to Deepseek and/or local models for implementation. The real AI war is in the pricing/performance ratio, and it doesn't look like any of the US-based models are winning on that front.

[Sammi]

Just because I don't personally know anyone using deepseek. I'm in northern europe. I can imagine there's a big huge chunk of the world that is priced out of using openai or anthropic, and I'm blind to it because of where I am.

[rurban]

I can use DeepSeek in 80% of my tasks. Let's see how the latest kimi 2.7 helps, because this is even cheaper than deepseek, and supposedly even better. So far it's not worse.