[dijksterhuis]

> It does seem like you aren't really disagreeing with us here.

I'm not.

> But you're just saying "don't make me think about why we agree about this!"

My position is that you're overcomplicating it with business doublespeak.

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> someone who hasn't thought much about why building the wrong thing is not worthless, and why those continuous mistakes in life are worthwhile, and isn't really interested in thinking about things at more than the surface level.

I have just spent the last two years writing over a thousand pages of very heavy introspective stuff about a bunch of stuff i've done, and things that have happened to me, over the last thirty years.

"surface level" is most definitely not the person you're speaking to.

[sanderjd]

Yes I understand that. The tendency of engineers to willfully refuse to understand what's going on in their businesses and scoff at the things they are refusing to understand by dismissing them as "overcomplicated" and "business doublespeak" is what my comment that started this thread was about.

[dijksterhuis]

Did you see the part in my big story time comment where i convinced the ceo his business strategy was wrong? do you think i did that with a flippant and dismissive comment?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48497153

i get the sense that you think i'm "one of those engineers". I am not.