[mrtksn]

You don't get it, the US government could have been bad or good but that wasn't the concern when it comes to America. America was a separate thing from the folks in Washington, some politicians and might have done very bad things or the military industrial complex might have pushed the politicians to start wars but this wasn't what America stands for. Americans used to be the good guys, even when bombing kindergartens in the Middle East because whoever was responsible for that would have had paid for it in front of the American legal system or American people.

[j_maffe]

> because whoever was responsible for that would have had paid for it in front of the American legal system or American people

That literally never happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_massacre?wprov=sfla1

> By June 17, 2008, six defendants had their cases dropped and a seventh was found not guilty.[5] The only one of the eight charged to face punishment was Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich. On October 3, 2007, the Article 32 hearing investigating officer recommended that charges of murder be dropped and Wuterich be tried for negligent homicide in the deaths of two women and five children.[6] Further charges of assault and manslaughter were ultimately dropped. Wuterich pled guilty to the only remaining charge, one count of negligent dereliction of duty, and was convicted on January 24, 2012.[7][8]

[mrtksn]

It doesn't matter, that was the perception and the expectation. Americans themselves were used to seen as blameless, since those things were against what US stands for.

[notabotiswear]

Dude, seriously, what are you smoking? Some nutcases literally flew a plane into civillian buildings as a response to the works of these Washington minority.

[mrtksn]

I think you need to read more carefully, you are arguing against things you imagine I said. Write down what you believe you are objecting to, try to find that in the things I wrote.

[notabotiswear]

>Americans themselves were used to seen as blameless, since those things were against what US stands for.

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[mrtksn]

What do you think that means exactly? Please consider to use words instead of dots. I am sure that those dots have some concrete meaning but that is in your head, we are different people and I am not able to read what you constructed in your imagination.

[bulbar]

It's really hard to distinguish this from satire, because it's so much detached from reality. I deduce it's not satire from the other posts here.

Labeling 300+ million people as "the good guys" grouping then by nation (I assume with "Americans" you mean US American citizen and not, for example, Mexicans?) but then trying to detach a nation from its politics is wild and the notion of "they are the good guys even when they do terrible things" is some weird circular or contradicting argument (depending on how I've wants to play that).