[TylerE]

No, if the pedestrian walks out in the known-dangerour street without so much as a glance, not a crosswalk, that is categorically not the cars fault. Idiots are gonna idiots. Just like all the cyclists that get hit around here for not obeying stop signs.

ALL users of the road are responsible for following the rules. Not being in a car isn't a "I can do whatever I want, whenever I want, whyever I want" pass.

[borski]

If you walk around yielding a knife, and you accidentally walk into someone who wasn’t paying attention, it is definitely your fault.

If you drive a car and accidentally drive into someone who isn’t paying attention, that is also on you.

You are holding the bigger weapon. That means you have the higher requirement for safety, imho.

I track cars and race, fwiw, so it’s not like I don’t like cars.

[TylerE]

When someone steps out 10ft in front of a car doing 30mph all the attentiveness and safety devices in the world won't make a difference. It's simple physics.

[borski]

I agree, of course. That is far from the most common scenario.

In the most common scenario, it is the driver’s fault.

Of course there are exceptions to everything.

[TylerE]

It's happened 3 times so far this year in my town of <100k.

[borski]

Out of how many pedestrian-vehicle collisions?

Anyway, I am not saying it never happens.

[TylerE]

Drunk college kids acting stupid are like 80% if pedestrian accidents.