[doctorpangloss]

ukraine has never used a long range missile against civilian targets in Moscow

its home built Flamingo has been reportedly used only a few times since february of this year in long range, as recently as just yesterday

the US and EU restricts ukraine's ability to use ATACMS or SCALP in any long range way

of course, US and EU are discussing withdrawing some kinds of vital war support, which is my point. These are the issues that are related: long range weapons use against deep targets in Russia means that allies withdraw support. and how could it not be that case? They could have developed Flamingo years ago when this war began, in 2014, why didn't they? there's nothing ignorant about this.

[nradov]

What's your point? Ukraine has successfully hit many military targets in Moscow with a variety of weapons. Why would they bother with civilian targets when there are so many vulnerable military targets to choose from?

Ukraine was barely a functional country in 2014. It took them a long time to get their act together and build a defense industry. Rocket science isn't easy.