[cherryteastain]

This logic works only if distilling Claude is the only way to create another SOTA LLM, which is not the case.

[maxdo]

it's not but full path is billions of dollars vs 10-100m range to stay near sota.

the problem is so large scale that distill attempts attribute to a decent share of their token revenue generally.

[sciencejerk]

How do you think the Qwen and MiniMax models perform so similarly to Anthropic frontier models? What is your take then?

[mcmcmc]

They probably stole all the same copyrighted IP

[_3u10]

Probably the same reason a Epyc 9965 from hetzner performs just as well as one from AWS for one tenth the cost.

Anthropic is offering a commodity product and trying to convince you it isn’t.

It’s even in the name, it’s a myth and a fable. Never happened doesn’t exist.

Also I believe at least on coding that qwen is now the frontier model, fable is its copy of frontier models. In the same way that the Ferrari Luce is an expensive imitation of a SU7 Ultra.

[abletonlive]

> Also I believe at least on coding that qwen is now the frontier model

The delusions people live in just to be a hater.

[yeeeloit]

China no. 1?