[jaffa2]

Is nextcloud the good one and owncloud the inferior one?

[__jonas]

The breakdown as I understand is as follows:

- Owncloud: The 'original' platform, written in php, still developed today

- Nextcloud: A fork of Owncloud (php) by some of the people that worked on it, including the project founder over directional differences, now more widely used than the original Owncloud

- Owncloud infinite scale (OCIS): An implementation of the Owncloud server in Go, with the goal of making it faster and more scalable than the PHP version

- Opencloud: A fork of Owncloud infinite scale (Go) after an acquisition of ownCloud, the company.

[zamalek]

My biggest problem with Nextcloud is that it intentionally broke (at least twice by memory) on some updates, wanting me to run some oci command on the box. Remember that "for my family" also means "for my family when I'm gone." I never got round to having to find an alternative thanks to the divorce, but I'd consider Nextcloud a complete non-starter for this reason.

Find an alternative.

[FabCH]

I don’t know about owncloud, but I have been hosting a family Nextcloud instance for a little under two years and it works fine.

It’s boring. It works.

[m00dy]

same here, great choice for a private family cloud.

[maxloh]

Nextcloud is written in PHP, which doesn't sound scalable to me.

OwnCloud is written in Go but employs an open-core model. Some features are locked behind a proprietary paywall.

[cheschire]

“OwnCloud infinite scale” is written in Go. But ownCloud 10 is php.

I tried for weeks to get OCIS working but gave up and went back to ownCloud 10.

They’re committed to security updates for 10 but it’s a small company. I doubt it will get much attention sadly.

[c_prompt]

> I tried for weeks to get OCIS working but gave up and went back to ownCloud 10.

I literally just finished my move from Nextcloud to ocis yesterday (Docker). There were so many silly issues (e.g., I spent 2 full days trying to figure out why an image was getting a 500 error, only to learn ocis doesn't support tall images). I have a full install script and integrated motomo too. So ping me if you want to give it another shot. (I deployed Baikal to replace dav functionality.)

Nextcloud has all sorts of problems and bloat. It's not worth it anymore to me.

[graemep]

Shared nothing is no scaleable?

[mbesto]

> Nextcloud is written in PHP, which doesn't sound scalable to me.

Lol what? Facebook (pre Hack), Tumblr, Wordpress, Etsy...

[smilespray]

Nextcloud and Wordpress both suffer massively from technical debt.

[encom]

The good OwnCloud is abandoned, and instead they released some meme enterprise nonsense.

I'm running NextCloud, but I hesitate to call it good, because of its kitchen sink approach to features. I really want 2015 era OwnCloud with just files, it being PHP/MariaDB/Apache-based. I refuse to use anything that requires Docker, which is most of the slop alternatives currently available.

[kombine]

I run nextcloud on a NixOS server within a systemd container, so no Docker.

[doubled112]

You can remove almost app in Nextcloud. It is pretty modular. You can have a files only Nextcloud, last time I tried.