[christkv]

I'm against BYD factories unless car parts shipped from china are not heavily tariffed. You don't want to allow them to ship entire kits from china to final assemble in Europe. You want them to buy from providers in Europe. Otherwise I'm in favor of massive tariffs on their cars to avoid dumping.

[madaxe_again]

That’s the exact model they follow in Brasil - they ship over the car without seats or a steering wheel, install them in Brazil with a Chinese labour force, declare it Brazilian made, pay no tariffs on the parts or the final vehicle.

There’s an aspirational goal of at least 50% Brazilian parts, but its currently 0%.

[christkv]

Ban them. Beyond cars is the fact that somehow its ok to buy unregulated chinese made products following no safety standards of the EU on temu, shein, aliexpress etc allowing them to skip all the costs of producing safe consumer goods in the EU. Ban all of them or put a 1000% tariff on all of the items. To long the EU has been followed the financial interests of German industry and their dealings in China. Since that phase is over we should treat China as the hostile power it is and force cuts to trade. Not a single Euro more in trade in than export to China.

[ErneX]

How about we compete instead? It’s likely that for them it’s going to be cheaper to manufacture in some Europeans countries than in China soon enough.

It’s appalling. And suggesting we will fix things by banning stuff in my opinion is just delaying the inevitable anyway. They are making better vehicles at better prices.

[madaxe_again]

Hard to do so. BYD rely quite heavily on slave labour, sorry, workers receiving free cultural re-education, which keeps production costs low.

In fact, they’re currently being investigated for it in both Brazil and Hungary.

[cucumber3732842]

The current status quo is that the populace wants these products so badly that current rules that are supposedly about safety simply don't get enforced.

A ban would be even less effectve it doesn't come with any of the "good marketing" that safety rules and regulations do so there would be even less political will to support enforcement.