[chucksmash]

The article is so facile.

> Yet crime-data analysts have noted that Louisiana’s crime wave was in keeping with a national trend

This is meant to be mitigating? What is this thought process? Who in their right mind is like "okay, a group of people broke into your home at night but your state shouldn't have been so hard on them for what ensued because akshually it was part of a whole nationwide trend at the time."

The modern right absolutely thrives on the fact that so many mostly reasonable people can't see that "play stupid games win stupid prizes" is just another side of the "tolerate anything but intolerance" coin. You can be in favor of showing leniency to kids for dumb, youthful mistakes without taking the doe-eyed approach that every dumb thing someone does in their youth is nothing more than a mistake. And the fact that you yourself made some poor decisions as a youth doesn't mean you have to look at a group burglarizing a house as "well, kids will be kids."

[bluefirebrand]

> The modern right absolutely thrives on the fact that so many mostly reasonable people can't see that "play stupid games win stupid prizes" is just another side of the "tolerate anything but intolerance" coin

This is something that drives me up the wall. I'm a pretty lefty guy, mostly, but I am very irritated by "my side" being so weak on crime.

I get it, we don't want to ruin people's lives for being a stupid kid doing a stupid crime, but there has to be some kind of middle ground between "ruin their life forever" and "teach them there are no consequences"

It's ridiculous

[soulbadguy]

> but I am very irritated by "my side" being so weak on crime.

Weakness on crime is not a left vs right thing.It's mostly about which kind of crime each side is soft on.

[watwut]

America is the country with boner for lengthy incarceration, staggering incarceration rates, long punishments and as difficult return to society as can be.

And it is never enough.

Also, importantly, when I look at the right wing conservatives I see criminals in leadership and I see violent criminals down. And whole party supporting them and enabling them.

[tstrimple]

Mostly just if you're poor and not well connected. Affluent rapists often just get a slap on the wrist at best. Some of them even become President of the country.

[soulbadguy]

> This is meant to be mitigating? What is this thought process? Who in their right mind is like "okay, a group of people broke into your home at night but your state shouldn't have been so hard on them for what ensued because akshually it was part of a whole nationwide trend at the time."

You analogy doesn't not hold, and in manyways point at the root of the issue. The point was to show that harsher punishment did not seems to result in meaningful effect on crime stats. It's fine to want harsher sentencing for some kind of emotional fuffilement, let's just not pretend that is helping in any otherways.