[I_am_tiberius]

These guardrails are solely a reason for using your data for training purposes. Every flagged message can be used for training.

[Retr0id]

This sounds backwards, any interrupted conversation becomes less useful for training.

[tekacs]

> We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class models, on both first- and third-party surfaces. We won’t use this data to train new Claude models, or for any non-safety-related purpose

Whatever problem we might have with them, they explicitly say that they do not do this in the launch post.

[Merik]

"We won’t use this data to train new Claude models"

What about non-Claude models?

[flexagoon]

"Introducing our latest model, CIaude, spelled with a capital "i" and legally distinct from Claude!"

[wmf]

If they can train the classifier to have fewer false positives that would be great.

[cyanydeez]

why would they? This safety stuff is a money maker & wealthy elite corporation solidifier.

This is the take off of the 'permanent underclass'; Anthropics safety delusion will enshittify very nicely for the rich and powerful.

[make3]

this reasoning is inverted lol they would get a lot more information by letting you use it. so much weird drama around reasonable guardrails for an experimental model

[autoexec]

I'd expect that everything they see gets used for for training purposes (and data mining in general) regardless of if it's flagged or not. It'd take a whistleblower for you to ever find out either way.

[Lord_Zero]

If we're doing conspiracy theories what if fable is really dumb and not better than opus and the guardrails hide that nicely. Meanwhile the hype train keeps chugging.