[kva]

The lean startup methodology is fundamentally antithetical to companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, Antares, etc.

How do you resolve the difference between the short term nature of the lean startup, and the long term optimistic nature of LTSE?

[eries]

I'm not sure I would group all those companies in with each other, and if you read the book, you'll see that I attempted to make at least one important distinction among them.

And it's interesting that people see Lean Startup as short-term; that's really not what's in the book. I tried really hard to make clear that you need a foundation of long-term thinking in order to make any kind of rapid iteration system, whether that's Lean Startup or Lean manufacturing, work. By the way, this is an old finding that shows up in a lot of the management literature going back to the people who originally studied the Toyota Production System.

But all that said, I'm really glad that you feel LTSE embodies a long-term optimistic view of the future. That was absolutely my goal in starting it.

[kva]

Big big fan of LTSE; The core tension I point out is simply that the epistemic crux of TLS -- short term validation -- is a poor proxy for the core risks in frontier companies. The cultural result of that is most people refuse to start long term companies since there is no short term way to validate the demand, which may in turn reduce demand for the LTSE itself :)

Looking forward to reading Incorruptible.