[drstewart]

My bank uses XML for their internal tooling without even asking me. How is that even legal?

I can't even imagine all the other tool choices businesses I interact with make without getting my sign off.

[bilekas]

I really hope you’re working in a safe area. If you think XML, is anything like AI, you need to study a bit more about deterministic and non. Schemas, structures, compilers. In fact if you were my student, id make you create a compiler. Without ai.

Edit: I try very hard to see others point of view, I’m starting to worry

[connicpu]

XML isn't stochastic

[vntok]

Wait till you learn the bank routinely uses CSV as a non-ironic exchange format! That definitely is stochastic.

[drstewart]

So? Did they ask me about it? I don't approve of it and I don't think it's secure enough for a bank. Absolute negligence.

[sddsfsdfsd2]

You jest but I agree. Also I think the "stochastic" arguments is getting old. What if XML was stochastic? Does it matter if it is "stochastic" or does it matter if it is correct?

You know my compiler generates a different binary every time I compile the exact same code. My CPU definitely is not fully deterministic yet it makes a nice show of it being so. I don't care and nobody cares as long as it works. And what "works" means exactly is quite a bit more involved than parroting "determinism".

[connicpu]

I don't know what compiler you're using but our C/C++ builds are definitely deterministic given the same source files. We have CI tests to ensure this remains the case.

[recursive]

The argument is getting old in the sense that it was first used longer and longer ago.

However, it's still just as applicable as ever. Perhaps more.

> Does it matter if it is "stochastic" or does it matter if it is correct?

In this case, we can only determine whether it's correct after it's too late to do anything about it. So if it was correct, we can say it didn't matter, but only in retrospect.

[bilekas]

> In this case, we can only determine whether it's correct after it's too late to do anything about it.

If only there was a mental concept of doing things correctly the first time. At the very worst manageable.

I understand your comment but I am tired of babysitting people to have some “cop on” and it is just getting worse. I’m a bit despondent.

[recursive]

Despite the well-established mental concept of doing things correctly the first time, mistakes continue to be made. Perhaps by people unaware of the mental concept.

I don't know what "cop on" means.

I've been feeling a bit despondent about the situation as well.

[bilekas]

I don’t think OP jests.