[Markoff]

By defending ourselves you mean defending my own family or being some pawn in politicians game dying for their wishes?

I am willing to defend my family.

I am certainly not even willing to defend ANY country just because local politicians are afraid of incoming new management, no matter whether it's my home country or country where I currently reside, I have no allegiance to any country, only to my family. Sadly majority of people are brainwashed, if there were more people like me there would be zero wars, just local crimes.

[tim333]

The history of not defending against incoming new management is not good for zero wars - google Sudetenland for example. If you want zero wars you're probably better being like Switzerland - defend your own country but don't go fighting abroad.

[t0bia_s]

Incoming new management works only because some willing to fight for greater good, safety... whatever establishment propagate.

Not sure why you mention Sudetland?

[tim333]

It was an area they let Hitler effectively occupy without going to war. The Donetsk People's Republic of its day. Not fighting over that only delayed the main war a little.

[t0bia_s]

Fighting over that might kill my grandparents.