[qweqwe14]

No.

You do realize that people have stuff to do and want their browser to be both 1) fast and 2) compatible with all websites?

Firefox is slower than Chromium, and always will have some compatibility issues, because all websites are made with Chromium in mind.

You can pretend all you want that "well ackshually standards exist and all website makers should use things from the standard", but it's not realistic, everyone will just stick with what works on Chromium.

Also projects like Ungoogled Chromium exist, but for some reason Firefox fanboys conveniently ignore them and pretend that all Chromium-based browsers are evil and Firefox is our last bastion of hope (it isn't and also it sucks)

[preg_match]

Chromium is technically faster but in practice it doesn’t matter if you don’t have an adblocker. Adblocking significantly lowers render and JS load and lessens memory pressure. It varies site to site, but keep in mind that ads have to be fetched and then displayed. That’s not free.

Firefox with uBlock origin is basically as fast as a web browser can get.

[qweqwe14]

uBO Lite exists and blocks ads just as well as uBO. Why do people pretend it doesn't exist?

[preg_match]

Because it doesn’t work just as well, because the blocking is less dynamic and filter lists are more out of date. For simple ad blocking scenarios it’s fine, but it will actually miss some ads on some websites.

[qweqwe14]

I've yet to see any ads on uBO Lite so I'll assume it's false, unless you give an example

[pseudalopex]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48474710

[preg_match]

uBO lite struggles with dynamically inserted ads. I’m not sure if it works with YouTube midrolls, I haven’t tried it. I did try paramount plus months ago though, which uBlock handles but Lite doesn’t. That’s not really an intended use case for an adblocker though, IMO, so maybe it’s fine. And, maybe it’s improved by now.

[pseudalopex]

> I did try paramount plus months ago though, which uBlock handles but Lite doesn’t. That’s not really an intended use case for an adblocker though, IMO, so maybe it’s fine.

What was not an intended use case for an ad blocker in your opinion? To block ads in video? Why?

[esseph]

> It varies site to site, but keep in mind that ads have to be fetched and then displayed. That’s not free.

Move your ad blocking to a different layer. Like say, network level.

[preg_match]

This can be done but it’s not sophisticated enough for many ads. Websites are smart and will smuggle ads through known-good domains that you can’t block. You really need to be able to navigate the dom and use JS heuristics to identify ads and popups.

[qweqwe14]

You could, but at the very least you'd need to MITM all HTTPS, and that means installing your own CA on all devices

[lelanthran]

> Firefox is slower than Chromium,

IME, ads introduce a 30% or more performance penalty, the only way Chrome is "faster" is if you view ads on FF.

So, sure, if you don't want to block ads, Chrome just might be slightly faster. But the browser that never fetches ads in the first place is always going to be faster.

[qweqwe14]

For some bizarre reason you think that you can't block ads on Chromium. uBO Lite exists and blocks ads just as well as uBO.

[account42]

People are also too lazy to go vote and then cry when someone gets elected that they didn't want to. Sometimes participating in society means not always taking the easiest path.

[qweqwe14]

It won't matter if dozens of nerds use Firefox, Chromium is just better in every way and that's the reason for it's popularity. No amount of "voting" will change that.

Manifest V3 doesn't prevent anyone from blocking ads, as proven by uBO Lite. And yet misinformation about MV3 takes place in every Chromium vs Firefox debate.

[tartoran]

I'll take slower and safer anytime over the jungle of ads and the dangers it exposes users to. If something doesn't work properly on FF I open up Chrome, use the site and then close it.

And to be honest FF is working fine for me, haven't run into anything too slow to my taste so far.

[gonzalohm]

That sounds like the apple fanboys "but it just works, why wouldn't I like a monopoly"