[ls612]

I had Claude walk me through getting local LLM models running on my Mac a month or two ago and so far as I can tell it was intentionally helpful. I even stated the reason was to have an uncensored model for myself and it had no objection. Long story short LM Studio running a Heretic Gemma 4 is doing just fine on my system now.

[vorticalbox]

I run a few local models for different things. I find Gemma 4 great for writing but qwen better for coding.

I tried the same prompt on gemma4 and qwen 3.5 and Gemma consistently failed to call the multi line edit tool.

[brewtide]

I've had the same bad luck with tool-calling on Gemma4. Looking around the web, we are not alone. For other tasks, it's seemingly quite quick and decent.

But it gets stuck in tool call loops, it seems like.

[ls612]

Oh to be clear I don't think Gemma 4 is suitable for real work. It runs at 10 tps and is somewhere between 4o and o1 in quality according to my subjective judgement. But Claude was happy to correctly tell me how to get it running and how to solve the pitfalls I encountered in that process.