[ToucanLoucan]

> I still wouldn't put it at the level of Brexit.

Perhaps not yet, but we have at minimum 2 and a half years of the Trump Family Circus to contend with, and they've gotten a lot destroyed in what time they've had so far.

And, Trump isn't the real problem. Anti-intellectualism here has hit it's zenith. Fully a third of our country is so propagandized and media-illiterate that they can't really be said to share a reality with the rest of us anymore.

I don't know how we can fix this. Talk radio, Fox News, and social media may well have damaged our civil life beyond repair. And they're still doing it.

[lenerdenator]

Oh, they've got that there too. GB News, TikTok, all the rest.

[ToucanLoucan]

And largely owned by the same fucking people, to boot. Hey maybe letting like 30 people have as much money as some sovereign nations was a bad idea guys...

[pstuart]

One can take some hope that Germany recovered from its descent into fascism. But that was in a time where there was no social media and other brainwashing technologies embedded into the population.

My hopes are tempered, to say the least.

[lenerdenator]

They also had 45 years of being split in half with one side being under a totalitarian government, and the other being partially administrated by three other countries with troops stationed there and the threat of thermonuclear war should ever the two sides get in a disagreement.

Also, many of the same ills that caused fascism the first time are starting to re-emerge. You can see this in the rise of AfD.