[ErneX]

It would be nice if Europe had companies innovating at this level but it’s not happening. If you make a list of tentative companies that would integrate their stuff to the OS like Siri it’s very likely all those are major US companies, so I don’t even know at this point what the EU is trying to defend here.

All I know is we are buying the same devices designed by the US but keep increasing the list of features we can’t enjoy.

[cleansy]

> so I don’t even know at this point what the EU is trying to defend here.

Says it right there: "Apple was simply unable to develop interoperability solutions that meet essential EU privacy and security standards," Regnier said. "Instead of trying to find a suitable compliance solution, Apple simply made a request to the European Commission to be exempted from their interoperability obligations under the DMA - and this for at least 18 months. That's not an option."

[JumpCrisscross]

> If you make a list of tentative companies that would integrate their stuff to the OS like Siri it’s very likely all those are major US companies

Mistral. I’d bet my bottom dollar that the French are the reason the EU is holding firm on its position.

[fvdessen]

Mistral is against these EU regulations. I bought a printed version of the AI act, it's 600 pages of absolute nonsense, with 5 mandatory committees on national, eu, company level; 12 steps 6 months processes to release a new features; daily reporting obligations to yet another committee. It's just not possible to release software with the regulations as they are written.

[disgruntledphd2]

Honestly, it's probably more that Apple have been arguing about basically every single thing they are being made to do under DMA, amd the respective Directorate has basically no patience left for them at this point.

Never underestimate the power of a really, really, really irritated counterparty.

[MBCook]

In other things Apple has absolutely been a complete jackass and deserves a very large amount of the smack down they’ve been getting. I’m sure that’s a part of this.

However they are also a 100,000 pound gorilla. If you fight with Apple over $ISSUE, even if they’re right in that case, you get headlines and possibly PR points. Lots of people here are quite happy to be mad at Apple. And other companies take notice that you’re serious.

If you argue with a tiny company from Spain, most of the world doesn’t care and you get no headlines.

Apple is complying with EU law by not releasing a feature that is not compliant with EU law. And the EU appears to be trying to make hay over that fact.

[sublimefire]

> innovating at this level

At what level? Improve Siri which is lagging behind, then add llms?

[ErneX]

At the level Apple does, I mean broadly and their peers, there is not an European company at those levels.

[sublimefire]

Isn’t ASML something like it?