[yandie]

Appples architecture prevents them from seeing customers data (see Private Cloud Compute documentation). Data that Gemini Assistant (not referring to the distilled version Apple uses) see goes straight to Google. Big difference here.

Weird to say it but the only assistant with any guarantee for privacy by design is Siri at the moment.

[wrxd]

What prevents to have an API that requires something akin Private Cloud Compute from other providers?

Technically makes the implementation of other providers harder but in principle it should be possible, no?

[musictubes]

Apple suggested that but was turned down.

[epolanski]

What is the source of this claim that this is the reason?

[yandie]

https://security.apple.com/blog/expanding-pcc/

The code is open source: https://github.com/apple/security-pcc

[epolanski]

Doesn't mention neither the EU nor DMA.

[NitpickLawyer]

> Data that Gemini see goes straight to Google.

That's not how the deal was announced. You don't pay Bs / year for a licence to gemini to send them your data. You pay that to run it on your own hardware, in your own garden, so the data stays put.

I know the internet is always anti big companies, but this is likely a "not worth it for now, we'll eventually do it" effort from Apple. The EU AI act is a mess, and the effort to simply know what they have to do to comply with it is likely going to take armies of people (not devs) and a lot of time, as the OOP said.

And the saddest part about it, is that Apple has the money and resources to sink into this. Think about all the small players that don't. This is yet again a miss for the commission, with the end result being an insidious form of regulatory capture. It sucks for those of us running small companies. Oh well.

[yandie]

I was referring to Google Gemini AI (their branding is horrible) - Google can see ALL of your interactions with their services - that's not what Apple gets to see

https://security.apple.com/blog/private-cloud-compute/