[rusk]

Ah yes the well known EU equivalent of the CIA, NSA

The one that’s so secret it’s not in any of the treaties that the sovereign nations that comprise the EU signed up for and implemented in line with their own democratic processes

That agency

Meanwhile they struggle to put together a border patrol, but advanced pan European surveillance apparatus that isn’t run by the US. Yeah bro

[simjnd]

I don't think they were necessarily thinking of one EU-wide agency, but the recent attacks on encryption including Chat Control which almost passed, a lot of EU countries voting for far-right governments. I do believe we still have it better than in the US wrt privacy (e.g. we don't have Flock cameras), but we need to be careful considering what EU governments have been doing.

[rusk]

> EU governments

“European” governments. Non-european governments too.

By definition “not” the EU

[simjnd]

Of course, but I'm replying to a comment that speaks like surveillance doesn't exist in the EU because there is not a European NSA, so I'm talking specifically about the EU surveillance risk.

[rusk]

> I'm talking specifically about the EU surveillance risk.

So specifically NOT MI6, GCHQ, the Swiss, Norway, FSB.

Only the members of an economic bloc that you envy.

Okay bro