[jplrssn]

> EU regulators on Tuesday slammed Apple

This reads more like a tabloid headline than the first sentence of a Reuters article.

[greggoB]

Depends on the news you read I guess, to me the word "slammed" is pretty commonplace in politics news-reporting and has been for a while (read: well before the modern take-down content that's so common to social media platforms).

[jplrssn]

You're right, I was thinking of "slammed" as being part of take-down style news reporting.

Looking at Google Ngram, usage of "slams" started inflecting upwards in the early 90's and then even more strongly in the mid-2000's. [0] I wonder if that second increase represents the type of usage I had in mind.

(I looked at "slams" rather than "slammed" to try to avoid some of the other modern meanings, like being slammed with work.)

[0] https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=slams&year_sta...

[greggoB]

> wonder if that second increase represents the type of usage I had in mind.

Could be, this is when social media was taking off and people chasing "viral" moments started to become a thing I guess.

I agree the difference is somewhat contextually nuanced, I had to check the usage of "slammed" as I know it to confirm my understood usage is a thing.

[nonethewiser]

I agree it’s a bit sensationalist. Here’s the EU Commission spokesperson’s criticism:

>“The decision not to roll out Siri AI in the EU is Apple’s and Apple’s only,” spokesperson Thomas Regnier told reporters in Brussels, saying there was nothing in the Digital Markets Act to stop the company from introducing new products in the EU.

>“Apple was simply unable to develop interoperability solutions that meet essential EU privacy and security standards,” Regnier said.

Obviously he's going to champion the EU's position, but his framing is internally inconsistent.

1. he claims the DMA doesn’t prevent Apple from launching products in the EU

2. the DMA sets certain requirements which determines whether features can ship in the EU

It's fair to say “the DMA doesn’t ban Siri AI,” but that's not the real issue. The regulation sets conditions, and Apple is arguing those conditions make rollout infeasible. The Commission claims its a compliance problem, not a regulatory block, but the reality is less binary. At a certain point the regulation is self-defeating. What is that point? This is the discussion that the EU lawmakers cannot acknowledge.

[xigoi]

> the DMA sets certain requirements which determines whether features can ship in the EU

They can ship any feature they want, as long as they give users the option to choose alternative implementation of the feature.

[nonethewiser]

Yes exactly, in accordance to the DMA.

"Compliance" isn't a thing without regulation.

[benoau]

> At a certain point the regulation is self-defeating. What is that point? This is the discussion that the EU lawmakers cannot acknowledge.

Because it's not self-defeating, what would that even be FAANG packing up and abandoning Europe? Worked out splendid for China.

[nonethewiser]

You are likening the DMA to China's protectionist laws. China requires 51% Chinese ownership of domestic operations, adherence to CCP censorships laws, etc That benefits domestic companies nothing and foreign companies a lot. It's protectionism.

Whereas the EU laws apply to foreign and domestic companies alike, and the goal is consumer protection. The compliance difficulty does not vary between foreign/local.

This is a common sentiment of EU tech regulation proponents. You may want protectionism but that's not really what these laws are about. Why not simply adopt the CCP's policy towards technology?