[Caracas288]

Those datacentres would be in the same position of trust as a VPN provider in that the data must be unencrypted at points in the process.

They could be making it very safe, and the things apple says they are doing would make it as safe as possible, but as a user there is no way of verifying the claims.

[freedomben]

> as a user there is no way of verifying the claims

I think this sums up what it's like to be an Apple user pretty well. With their heavy proprietary and closed approach, all users can do is "trust" them.

[brookst]

Have you read the PCC whitepapers? Are you saying the user-facing verification methods in them are insufficient, or vulnerable, or just false?

[Caracas288]

The previous argument was wrong and imprecise, as it could be used against any modern technology, none of which can be fully understood by a user, in the sense that any vulnerability would be completely invisible.

It’s clear they have made a very intelligent approach to this system.