[zamalek]

> API is definitely being sold at a decent profit.

Where do you get this from?

Enterprise plans are being cancelled or limited all over the place (Uber, Microsoft). I doubt Anthropic would be leveraging a loss leader with their consumer plans, while catastrophically hemorrhaging customers on the enterprise.

They are either operating at a loss (possibly a minor one), or a minor profit (which is chasing customers away).

If they were comfortably profitable they wouldn't need to participate in the circular deal circus.

[minraws]

It would be insane, if they can't serve the models at a profit sure at current GPU prices the profit might be 10% or lower. But at realistic gpu prices it would have been close to 30-60% based on how big the models actually are and how much they have optimized the stack to serve them.

1T parameter models like Kimi K2.6 can be served for 1/10 to 1/5 of the price of opus 4.8 for perspective.

Sure opus is 2x the size and hosting might be non linearly scaling so still it should be around 50% margin at regular gpu prices.

If it isn't I would be very surprised.

Also for enterprises we joke but Google is not paying same rates as us there are big massive enterprise discounts. I have heard upto 20-30%... OpenAI is supposedly even more generous.

I don't think API is being sold at a loss at the end of the day even if the API profits are marginal 10-20% because of insane GPU prices now.