[ActorNightly]

I absolutely adore the historical revisionism that apple cares about privacy.

Run your router through a linux laptop as a proxy so you can capture traffic, connect any apple device to your router, and see the vasts amount of data your device sends to apple.

Apple DGAF about privacy, they want your data as much as anyone else, their only thing is that they should be the only ones to get it and then other people have to pay them for it, rather than your device sending the data to the 3d party directly.

And if you think your data is secure, reminder that The Fappening was all done targeting apple devices.

[Cider9986]

Apple added e2ee and created the most complete end to end encrypted cloud ecosystem to prevent that from happening again.

[ActorNightly]

Do you trust them to actually implement that correctly, and also do you trust them not to share your data with others, and if so, why?

[Cider9986]

I don't use it, but yes I think that it works because they have everything to lose and nothing to gain. They definitely could share whatever data they have with whoever, which is why you use e2ee.

At the end of the day you are trusting Apple with pretty much everything if you use this service because they make most of your phone, the entire operating system, host the update servers, etc.

[ActorNightly]

>At the end of the day you are trusting Apple with pretty much everything if you use this service because they make most of your phone, the entire operating system, host the update servers, etc.

Correct but this is not privacy.

Privacy is when you have a phone does not contact external services, or at the least, allows you to control which services it can contact.

With Apple, you don't have this. Sure e2ee to Apple exists, but if China decides to put enough pressure on Apple and request your data from Apple if you visit China, its very likely they will give it to them, and you have no option to opt out.

[Cider9986]

Apple doesn't run iCloud in China.

We were originally talking about if they implemented e2ee correctly and obviously e2ee gives you significant privacy. Your documents are still private if you encrypt them locally and then upload to google drive, no matter what connections google drive makes.

Privacy is a spectrum and Apple gives you the most privacy of any big tech company.

[DANmode]

Is that secret code for “rate-limited auth on the Find My API”?

[DANmode]

I’m not breaking NDA if I never signed one/was nowhere near the company or situation, you guys can fuck yourselves lol ^_^