[dofm]

> Will Apple's offering be providing any meaningful/significant benefit over just using GPT ? If not, don't expect any miracles.

Judging by the announcements today about its integration into the OSes? They are offering useful things ChatGPT cannot offer unless they write an "everything app".

One can (maybe should) make the argument that this is the browser monopoly again, but given that the USA has seemingly no intention of ever litigating that question again even if the EU does, there are clearly features here that OpenAI is effectively locked out of offering.

[famouswaffles]

Just because Apple said they're 'integrating into the OS' (which can really mean a lot of things) doesn't mean they'll offer something users will actually care about that Open AI can't match.

[filoleg]

> Apple said they're 'integrating into the OS' (which can really mean a lot of things)

Well, it can mean a lot of things, which is why Apple outlined plenty of specific use-cases and details of what they meant by "integrating into the OS" here.

[ai_slop_hater]

What did they outline? We had "browser use" for a while now, but it is still way too slow to be usable. Not to mention whatever OS integration they are making.

[discreteevent]

> that Open AI can't match.

Open AI can match it but at what price?

[famouswaffles]

I don't understand what you are saying here

[saidnooneever]

likely cheaper than buying an apple product

[throwthrowuknow]

Windows has been pushing the same thing hard without much success.

Why do I care if AI is integrated into my OS when I can choose my preferred AI and it can use the OS directly?

[marcus_holmes]

This.

The other day I wrote up some notes for a presentation. Opened Google Slides, clicked the gemini button, pasted the notes in and asked it to make the slides. Nope; gemini can only modify a single slide at a time in Google Slides.

Pasted the same notes into claude, it wrote a pptx file, I imported that into Slides, job done.

Being integrated into the product doesn't always mean a better result.

[pizlonator]

Yeah!

Not being integrated can be an advantage because it gives you the freedom to think outside the box.

Meanwhile an AI engineer embedded into an incumbent slide app team has to ask permission and get cross functional alignment for every little feature. And deal with neckbeard tech leads lecturing them on what the right architecture is

[duttish]

That's progress, last time I tried that a month or something ago gemini (the web app) crashed when trying to generate slides.

[mnsc]

Well I sure hope that the gemini developers don't have access to agentic development tools because they might read this comment, build the multi slide editing feature using 450M tokens and ship it yesterday removing that Claude edge forever.

[mastermage]

I hate that I am defending apple here but Microslop has been pushing a garbage tacked on integration of AI into Windows. By all accounts of the last 20 years of Apple, they are much much better at integrating different services into one fluid system.

[throwthrowuknow]

I guess, but I haven’t been thrilled by anything apple has released in a long time either. The status quo has just remained unchanged.