[wewewedxfgdf]

It is weird and disturbing that Apple has no native AI capability.

This is one of the most cash rich companies in the world and it has failed to have any position in the most critical technology development perhaps ever.

It's a clear signal that Apple became the most incredible operational/execution company under Tim Cook, but lost its innovation leadership.

[shitloadofbooks]

You don't stay the most cash-rich company by chasing every expensive fad and they've been equally conservative with other "THIS WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING" tech fads such as Cryptocurrency and VR. I don't blame them for not rushing to light Billions a month on fire like the other big players; their play always seems to be to let things shake out and then deliver something refined and sophisticated.

There also doesn't seem like any real opportunity for them to Apple-ify this tech (any more than today's announcement). There's lots of rough edges and the underlying technology is fundamentally janky and extremely problematic in Apple's second differentiator of privacy.

[solenoid0937]

They did light billions on fire for VR, just not as publicly

[Danox]

Hardly everything in the Apple Vision is in/comes from the Mac, iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch hardware wise and software wise all you need do use them its called being the last major American vertical computer company left. Light billions on fire OpenAI, Google, were hopeful but got nothing.

[mitchell_h]

I take it as a signal they don't see any of their value being provided by the models. They're strong point was never frontier technologies. It's always been the delivery of the technology.

[johannes1234321]

They are a hardware company at heart, the do software as software is needed.

For building a competitive AI they'd have to hire the talent, which is expensive and then do a massive investment, which may still end up far behind the competition. (See there attempts with Siri)

Now they can pick the model they want and if time is right they can still build their own.

In the end they still want to sell devices. They aren't doing a search engine (while they could), they are not doing an LLM model, ...

[wewewedxfgdf]

>> They are a hardware company at heart, the do software as software is needed.

This has never been true, not since Steve Jobs returned.

The heart of Apple is software and hardware integration.

Hardware companies that do software just to prop up the hardware business do terrible software, and (no doubt the Apple haters gonna hate this) but Apple does - for the most part - amazing software.

>> which is expensive and then do a massive investment

Apple has $145 billion in cash.

[ragazzina]

>This has never been true, not since Steve Jobs returned.

This is true now more than ever, since their hardware is now much better than the competition and the software pretty abysmal.

>The heart of Apple is software and hardware integration.

The heart of Apple is integrating their excellent hardware with their subpar software in order to force users to adopt it.

[johannes1234321]

> Apple has $145 billion in cash.

This doesn't mean they want to throw it out of the window in a way which reduces their overall margin.

[Danox]

Come back when most of AI model makers go belly up....

Apple largest acquisition in their entire history is three billion dollars (Beats), Sam OpenAI got nothing and Google is getting a measly one billion dollar refund for Gemini.

Innovation is Apple Silicon and the five ecosystems (Microsoft and Nvidia aren't sparking now for nothing), Innovation is being the last American vertical computer company left from the 1980's who has been able switch gears went necessary (the next gear shift will probably be memory)...

[calf]

Well it's half-and-half, why did Apple struggle for so long with Siri and its pre-LLM era technology, during the time of AlphaGo and so forth, and then after Covid why didn't Apple pivot to something like their own version of Gemini?

But there are lots of differing possible reasons for this, and I think it is premature to conclude with any one in particular.

[mark_l_watson]

I have been using their on define AFM models for a year - for small models they are good. Their Secure Enclave server bases AFM model is good, but not in the same class as gemini 3.5 flash or deep seek v4 flash.

[ohyoutravel]

Really I don’t think this is a strong take at all. If anything this has positioned them extremely, extremely well for when the bubble bursts and they can go with the winner to provide reasonable capabilities.

[Gigachad]

It's looking like an incredible move so far. They will have wasted no money while the whole industry lit trillions on fire, and then at the end they can just rent a model for cheap and replace it with their own or whatever is cheapest at any time.

The users really aren't Gemini users, they don't care what the model is behind the scenes.