[rayiner]

> It's not a matter of ideology, or of punishment. It's simply the dynamics of the system playing out. It's alienating for people inside of it because they're experiencing the effects of historical forces which operate on a scale longer than human life.

But British people today aren't doomed to allowing historical forces to play out. Or are you suggesting futility--that the British government lacks the state capacity to prevent what's happening?

[djhn]

If the government had the capacity to prevent this, they would have. It appears, therefore, that they indeed do not.

[anigbrowl]

Yes, they largely do lack the capacity, short of drastic restructuring of state institutions. What are they going to do? North Korea type isolation? Ethnic cleansing? The latter is essentially the program of the Restore Britain party, though I'm not sure if that's an actual party-in-waiting or a front group designed to make Reform or the Conservatives look more reasonable.