[MangoCoffee]

Chinese model is good enough and cheap.

i've a Github copilot yearly subscription. Microsoft recently changed their billing to based on token. i'm still getting billed per premium request but GPT 5.4 is now 6x compare to 1x before.

[reactordev]

It's going to be an issue when China ends up scaling faster as well. Faster tokens, faster clusters, qat models, fp4, it's getting scary.

[AndrewKemendo]

Issue for who?

[fillskills]

Issue for any country that is not China. A single country getting the most AI tokens business would be generally bad for global economy. Hoping against hope that this business gets globally distributed and there is a healthy marketplace competition overall

[reactordev]

It’s all about economic warfare. The cheaper you can run the models, the cheaper you can offer them. Undercutting expensive tiers with token limits or exuberant billing practices.

You are right to be scared, because this race to the bottom also provides open weights/models/qat’s for the rest of us and it’s been crazy to see how good they can be on a consumer grade RTX card.

[throwa356262]

For uncle Sam Altman.

[reactordev]

American Politics and the far right.

[fortzi]

For the West

[nchmy]

Try using opencode go with your github copilot chat. You get easy, cheap access to Chinese models within the familiar interface.