[9dev]

German here, I want the same. We are one species inhabiting a single habitable world in a giant dead void. Nationalism is an idiotic game of no value that causes destruction of resources we need, senseless killing in wars over nothing, and ultimately merely a distraction from everything that’s really important.

[BSDobelix]

Nothing against a Coordinating body like the UN, and really small states (lets call them community's).

But there is no "we are the world, we are the children", future is probably more like US/EU/EAU (east asia union), now you have 3 big blocks fighting against each other (much higher world-ending chance). More power = more bully....

>everything that’s really important.

Yes your right, and talking...even with a enemy should be considered the base for future world-freedom.

[9dev]

No, I'm absolutely aware that we are - as of now - unable to get past the pettiness of nationality and tribalism. Maybe it's so ingrained in us, we'll never get past that, I don't know.

It's just massively frustrating to see what humanity could accomplish if we weren't occupied bashing our heads in over religion, nationality, or color of skin. The planet - the only planet - is dying, people and animals are suffering, and the news are dominated by a particular clown and his circus. It's really unbearable sometimes.

[BSDobelix]

>The planet - the only planet - is dying, people and animals are suffering, and the news are dominated by a particular clown and his circus. It's really unbearable sometimes.

Oh man you speak from my heart, it's like we live on a star-ship, but everyone looks just at their own room instead of steering the ship into a better future.

EDIT: However, as we see a shift from the UN (as a future captain?) to NATO (at least in the so called "West"), i see dark times ahead of us.

[SuddsMcDuff]

> It's just massively frustrating to see what humanity could accomplish if we weren't occupied bashing our heads in over religion, nationality, or color of skin.

Resenting the real world because it doesn't live up to your make-believe fantasy world is pathological. I too can imagine perfect utopian worlds where everybody lives in peace and harmony, but they're just fantasies. Eventually you have to come back to the real world and learn to accept the harsh truths of the reality you find yourself inhabiting.

[9dev]

That's not what I have said. Imagine you have a mentally challenged brother you love dearly, who continues to run head-first against a wall. That's what it feels like. Doesn't mean I'm not aware and accepting of the reality we all live in.

Edit: And honestly, I find it a bit pathological to take the sentence you quoted upfront and not feeling similar resentment against those things. Granted, Humans are a belligerent species, but just shrugging these things away is really not an acceptable stance either.

[BSDobelix]

>Resenting the real world because it doesn't live up to your make-believe fantasy world is pathological.

I dont think world-peace (more or less) is impossible, even if it's more like "Brave New World" instead of "1984".

Or maybe something like the UN with a strong peace-force and WITHOUT a security council but a real and fair democratic decision process.

And maybe the most important point, i have not seen real War-Winners (except the mil.-industrial-blabla) since the 2. World-war....just losers on both sides.

[glerk]

> Eventually you have to come back to the real world and learn to accept the harsh truths of the reality you find yourself inhabiting.

I don't know why I feel so much contempt for people like you. I kinda get it, you want to feel intellectually superior. You're the reasonable one, the adult in the room, etc. but seriously bro, this reality is so fucking harsh. What keeps you going? Why are you still here and going through with it?

[rlpb]

The paradox of tolerance applies though. It helps to keep the intolerants at bay.

[emaro]

No borders doesn't mean no rules.