[Ancalagon]

I cannot wait for those business people to run the ops themselves for their vibe coded apps in production.

[condwanaland]

In my experience, business people are chomping at the bit to build and manage the ops for their apps, but it's always an "IT Operating Model" that is thrown back at them

[Ancalagon]

I have never met a product or sales person chomping at the bit to manage the PagerDuty of the apps they peddle to management

[mekdoonggi]

Vibecode a clone of the production stack and give them the keys and tell them to figure it out lol