[lmm]

> Why hasn’t the economist of the world figured out a solution to this problem.

Because the only solutions that work are social.

> There has to be a better way when both sides would be better off by just paying the theif double. Some kind of proof of work system to show that you really are crazy enough to do the crime maybe.

Kipling has a poem about that one, it doesn't work out.

[narrator]

>Because the only solutions that work are social.

This kind of talk from leftist politicians translates to me as : "We will use the criminally insane, and drug addicted against you in a campaign of terror until you vote in Communists. We will do everything in our power to prevent you from imprisoning these people or the people who poison them with drugs to maintain our leverage over you and increase our political power. We will only offer you one solution, vote for us, the high priests who will bring you the promised land of fixed social problems through some process we won't implement until we're totally in control and that we won't tell you about. All out solutions before then will be used to increase the problem to increase our leverage and bring about the revolution while blaming you for not giving us enough power."

I mean if any of the leftists "solutions" actually worked instead of making things worse and wasting insane amounts of money, time, property and victims lives I'd have a different view of this. El Salvador is the counter example to all the leftists blather. Most violent country in the world fixed in 3 years with 90% approval of the government by just calling b.s on all the leftists propaganda about "social causes."

[pstuart]

Prison is expensive and has downstream costs as well--it should be a last resort. There's definitely times where it absolutely is the right thing but it should not be default mode.

Note that these crimes are almost always done by drug addicts. We have the War on Drugs that was supposed to make this never happen and yet it's a fucking epidemic. So how's that war working for you, eh?

It's cheaper to get these people off drugs and redirected to being "good citizens" again, or even just give them their drugs in a controlled medical setting (like is done with methadone).

[pixl97]

Yea, this is a bunch of ignorant right wing blather.

https://smartdrugpolicy.org/decriminalization-the-portuguese...

The thing about drugs is they are actually insanely cheap. You could make a few million doses of meth for a few thousand dollars at the industrial scale. It's the black market and war on drugs that raise the cost, which in turn lead people to steal.

And as others have mentioned, jails are extremely expensive and breeding grounds for more crime in the future.

[kQq9oHeAz6wLLS]

Incidentally, that's basically the plot of Zootopia

[engineer_22]

Underrated film from the perspective of social critique.

[devmor]

Yes it’s very easy to have 90% approval and hear no downsides to your regime when you execute and imprison people for disapproval.

Oh you have some complaints? You must be a drug dealer. Death for you.

[narrator]

He didn't even execute anyone. They are all just in that prison. Do some basic research first or you show your ignorance.

[devmor]

Oh sorry, we're calling them "forced disappearances" now.

Can't be an execution if the body is never found.