[NewsaHackO]

>will categorically reject AI-made metal on principle.

I think this is a huge part of the reason people sometimes find AI criticism so dismissible; there is always some factor other than the actual product it seems that AI-made assets are judged on. With Suno, the biggest ones I've seen are 1) hating AI-created music by virtue of it being AI-created, and 2) the hate is from people who attempt to generate income from their music production, and Suno made music cuts into that pie.

[hibgymnb]

So heres a suno criticism that has nothing to do with hating AI music on principle:

The most appealing part of my favrorite music is the human element. When I hear someone singing and I know they mean it.

When they tell me a story and I can tell it’s genuine.

When I can relate to what they’re saying and who they are as a human.

Suno will never be able to recreate that.

[pickleRick243]

This is obviously "hating AI music on principle". Your last sentence means that there is literally nothing Suno can produce to change your mind.

Not hating it on principle would be something like "Suno-produced music I've listened to is derivative/soulless and has that annoying AI quality that makes me want to turn it off immediately. Maybe one day it could produce something genuinely moving and beautiful, but I'm skeptical."

[customguy]

They didn't say "genuinely moving and beautiful", they said their favorite music is about "the human element / someone / I know they mean it / I can tell it’s genuine / who they are as a human".

They didn't even say they "hate" other music, either, just that it's not their favorite.

If someone says "I only like green paintings", that excludes red paintings, even ones that have the word "green" written on them. Nothing to "fix" there, if anything, the question is why some people just won't accept that. They are acting oddly, not the people who know what they like and why.

[pickleRick243]

I didn't say there was anything to fix (I didn't use that word). The poster I replied to is free to dislike AI on principle. I'm just pointing out that his dislike of AI is in fact based on principle.

[customguy]

> I'm just pointing out that his dislike of AI is in fact based on principle.

Followed by how to be properly open-minded and not an AI-hater. Yeah, you didn't use those exact words either, but that was the implication.

And "liking humans", that is, preferring them in music (of all things!) isn't "hating AI".

[pickleRick243]

I don't see much point in continuing this thread. You're fixated on defending the poster's level-headed criticism of AI in music. I'm addressing a much more specific point- that despite the poster's claim, his distaste for AI in music is based on principle. No matter how many advances AI makes in music, he will be unmoved because his preference for human-made music is exactly that it is not made by AI.

[ai_brain_rot]

Music is fundamentally about connecting with other humans.

AI can’t recreate that.

It can create sounds that are pleasing to the ears, but music is so much more than that.

[LtWorf]

Currently AI music is quite recognisable as such. I don't know if it will get better. But people who listen to music do notice.