[gedy]

> But as always, further working on it proved extremely difficult, as it always tried to go back to making generic stuff, ignoring the details you give it.

It's like any LLM, it's not a tool for if you know exactly what you want with all these knobs and fine grained controls.

> The most interesting result I had was actually when I managed to get it off rails, a bug more or less. I asked it to mix two very different genres together, and it made something unsettling in a way I don't remember hearing before.

I don't think that's a bug or unexpected, it's what AI is good for. I do these (very) old Blues covers of modern songs and it's terrific at that sort of conversion thing.

[GuB-42]

> I don't think that's a bug or unexpected

In this particular case, it really gave some "uncanny valley" feeling. That is, on the surface, it sounds like something familiar, but something is off. The wrongness was completely unintended, not prompted for, but interesting, in the same way that eldritch horror is interesting.

I wanted to mix heavy metal and hardstyle, the idea I had in mind was to imagine a battle, one side being represented by one style, and the other, by another style, each side responding to the other. It didn't give that much thought to it, but it sounded fun. And instead of getting the back and forth I expected, I got... weirdness.

I then tried to add some matching lyrics, that is, something similarly uncanny, also using AI. It also turned out to be somewhat difficult and not all LLMs managed to pull it off (ended up with GPT-5.5). That is, for many LLMs, especially the small, self-hosted ones, I couldn't get the effect I wanted, even after trying different prompt strategies. Scary words, spooky scenes, etc... no problem, but that's the opposite of what I wanted. I wanted something subtly wrong, not an B movie horror scene. Also, by adding the lyrics to the song, Suno lost a bit of an edge to the song.

If you are interested, here are the links, with and without lyrics. Don't expect anything good, it is just a little experiment: https://suno.com/s/Amu1FcrjkHsB2WTt , https://suno.com/s/gXMfNnv1g453PiaS

[gedy]

I think it sounds cool, the style mix is really interesting. Had some fun doing similar:

https://suno.com/song/a24e349b-de3b-4f98-a733-f7f70949571f

https://suno.com/s/Ff9n8A7R9k7iTpBD

I definitely come from the angle of appreciating the novelty and newness of sound from this generated music, especially when tasked with mashups. I'd not use if I had a strong vision around refining a particular song though, maybe that's the challenge with the "battle" inspiration you were after.

FYI though you can give some hints to the generation about what you want, if you look at the 'lyrics' for the two instrumental songs above you'll see them in the brackets.