[5701652400]

look at layoffs.fyi. chances are he will be laid off pretty soon. and if not tomorrow, give it couple extra years until AI gets even better. it is one-way road, down the hill.

not woodworking. farming. get a pot of land and grow your own food. do not participate in economy at all. that's the only survival.

[applfanboysbgon]

My comment was about the fact that even if you're laid off, you're more likely to find success in artisanal software than artisanal woodworking. That statement is not an assertion that you're guaranteed success, just that it's more likely to sustain yourself than woodworking is.

Layoffs also don't really tell you anything. Is it actually LLMs that are causing layoffs or is it deteroriating economic conditions and uncertainty amidst war, oil shocks, etc.? Is it junior employees being laid off, or seniors? If it's the former, someone with 10+ years of professional experience might not have reason to be concerned. I happen to believe that, LLMs or not, the software development field already had far too many jobs, employing a large number of clueless people who contributed somewhere between zero and negative value to their organizations, and that it was overdue for a correction anyways.

[5701652400]

true, agree on later point.

but for "woodwork" / personal-farm still belive he is better off than software. at least he will be employed and have food on the table.

[Our_Benefactors]

> get a pot of land and grow your own food

Rejecting industrialized society is actually very expensive

[mschuster91]

Artisanal food for hipsters is always going to be a market. People are willing to pay a premium for locally or regionally grown produce, fruit, eggs and meat.

However, it's a risky business so I'd only recommend getting started if you either (!) are FIRE already even after sinking 3 million bucks into purchasing land and machinery as well as constructing all the buildings or if you join a cooperative/union or if you got experienced farmers in your family.

Everything else - especially following "prepper" influencers shilling books and holding more public speeches to shill for said books than they are actually working on their farm - is a recipe for certain disaster.

If in doubt... first try raising a few dozen chickens in your yard as a starting point.

[rightbyte]

> If in doubt... first try raising a few dozen chickens in your yard as a starting point.

No. Just try to make a 5x8 plot to grow vegetables and realise how ridiculously hard it is.

[mschuster91]

> No. Just try to make a 5x8 plot to grow vegetables and realise how ridiculously hard it is.

That works out as well, yeah.

Chickens have the advantage that they eat almost anything and they'll give you eggs. Loads of eggs. More eggs than you can realistically eat if you're not into weightlifting. And especially, they give you eggs for a looooong time - if you eat that salad or tomato, it's gone. The chicken lasts longer, and you can make it into some delicious soup at the end. But for that you need to be able to stomach killing the chicken, which frankly I do not lol.

[5701652400]

"industrialized society" just rejected 160,000 sofware engineers this year. other industries are no better. you are either wage-slave barely making it. or getting laid off, as those people are not needed.

[Our_Benefactors]

There were layoffs yes. The solution is to pursue something that on a small scale is net negative financially? Get out of here.

[trumpdong]

You are not allowed to have land without participating in the economy. The government forced you to acquire land by buying it, and to pay taxes in dollars.

[5701652400]

I mean you can sell surplus to market. but key point you do not pay taxes on food you grown on your backyard and eat yourself! nor you are subject to any market collapse. as long as sun shines and raind pours, your food grows in your backyard, no matter S&P or inflation rates.

[trumpdong]

You pay tax on owning land.