[devsda]

> I like quality, am not price sensitive but any device that requires an app or has a camera/mic built in is out of question

You probably meant "I want no frills product because of its simplicity, not because its cheap" but when that feedback reaches a PM, they'll only hear "I will pay more to not have a camera or a mic".

[kimos]

This is not correct, for me at least.

I want a very good washing machine with frills, but it want it to wash well and quietly without needing to be configured from my phone over wifi.