[designerarvid]

The benefit here is designers learning to code. It was always weird to me that designers were shaping software without knowing how it was built. I'm a designer btw.

However, designing in code is technology-first. One could argue that the purpose of design - to shape the artifacts for human purpose - is better done NOT starting with the strict rules of code. Pen and paper is still hard to beat, not for anything that looks nice, but for helping your mind forward.

[polyterative]

I've been a full stack and frontend focused engineer for six years and got sick of writing code by hand. Moved to design. Now since I can code with my voice basically I'm getting back into vibe coding and building products. And it's awesome. My bosses still trying to figure out the new situation though, i think the old school separation of roles is starting to die.Being on the intersection I think is the best place to be right now. I feel like my whole life I've been preparing for this moment.

[iLoveOncall]

> The benefit here is designers learning to code.

Designers aren't learning to code.

My wife works as a product manager in a FAANG and her team has leaned extremely heavily in using AI to vibe-code some pieces of software that they would have done on Word, Excel or similar otherwise.

They're not learning to code, they don't even look at the code a single second.

[designerarvid]

Generalising sure feels good doesn’t it?

[halapro]

> without knowing how it was built

It helps to understand the constraints of a medium, but you really don't need to know every level down to the electrons moving through the silicon.

[designerarvid]

Certainly, it helps the architect to know the constraints of concrete and bricks, but you don’t really have to know every level of down to the chemistry.

[vdfs]

LLM usually make you forget coding, it doubt it's good for learning if you use in this way. For a designer it would be similar to Figma where he see the result and can edit it using language instead of visual editor

[micromacrofoot]

having an llm produce code isn't learning how to code, it's learning how to use a tool to produce code

maybe that doesn't matter though, I suspect many developers will no longer look at all the code they produce either

[designerarvid]

Many nuances and “it depends” here in my experience. Is learning git part of “learning to code”? Some learn, others don’t.

Of course hammering away prompts aren’t learning at all.

[micromacrofoot]

indeed, I know some great developers that use git but haven't ever learned it

[physicsguy]

Of course but sometimes designers like architects design something that can’t easily be built.

[illwrks]

You need designers that have worked closely with engineers and have their head screwed on.

[ozim]

But then you „design like software developers”.

[consp]

What's wrong with a good cli?

[946789987649]

My mum doesn't know how to use a cli.