[paulsutter]

The Snowden disclosures revealed that the US was regularly spying on Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Japan, South Korea, Brazil, Mexico, the EU, and the UN. Also of course the CIA was spying on Congress.

One can only imagine that many of these countries were also spying on us in various capacities, albeit with fewer resources. Israel is a bigger concern because they're extremely good at it, but I'm sure it's nothing new.

[wefarrell]

From the article:

>While it is commonplace for allies and adversaries across the globe to spy on each other, the current and former U.S. officials said Israel’s recent efforts have gone well beyond what is typical and expected espionage.

[impossiblefork]

It should also be noted, that the EU countries which this espionage targeted were not happy about it at all, and did not find it one bit normal.

[derektank]

Yes, espionage is not an act of war and is a regular occurrence, even between allied nations. You can see this clearly during WW2 now that much of the information has been declassified. Great Britain ran an extensive intelligence operation in New York prior to US entry into the war.

[parthdesai]

How many of those countries openly lobby politicians in USA though?

[StriverGuy]

Every single one.

[parthdesai]

Do you’ve proof for that? On the other hand, AIPAC is out there for anyone to see

[JumpCrisscross]

> Do you’ve proof for that?

Yes, it's why we require foreign agents to register [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Ac...

[tbugrara]

Yet AIPAC does not need to register.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Yet AIPAC does not need to register

Why would it? We have lots of friends of X groups that don’t need to.

The strongest own goal Israel’s political opponents in America play against themselves is in pretending this is entirely a conspiracy. It’s not. Until recently, Israel was popular. Against the background of few voters caring about foreign policy at all, that meant small margins were foreign-policywise meaningful while continuing to be electorally irrelevant.

[basilgohar]

Ah, the whole, "Everyone does it, why are you picking only us?"

They used to for their warcrimes, genocide, apartheid, and literally every other thing they are guilty of.