[ben_w]

Have you considered doing the same in reverse?

Because sure, if you look at the right parts of the US, you can find zero homicide rate due to there not being any residents. You can also do this in Europe. It tells you nothing.

What may give you a hint about relative safety is that the UK police don't bother with being regularly equipped with firearms, because they don't need to be.

[diordiderot]

Side note, UK police harass people for 'non-crime hate incidents' and put people on terror lists for being critical of protected ideologies.

Judges give longer sentences for mean tweets than hoarding child pornography or months long torture and rape of children.

More euros die of heat stroke than Americans die from gun violence.

Edit: NHS waitlists are double digit months to years. You have one of the worst birthing outcomes in the OECD. You have relatively poor cancer treatment outcomes

I won't take any lecturing on societal ills from such a perverted system.

[trumpdong]

Can you elaborate on "being critical of protected ideologies", what does that mean in concrete terms?

[ben_w]

> Side note, UK police harass people for 'non-crime hate incidents' and put people on terror lists for being critical of protected ideologies.

The US has recently declared being "anti-fascist" as a terror organisation. Bonus points: antifa isn't even an organisation.

> Judges give longer sentences for mean tweets than hoarding child pornography or months long torture and rape of children.

Citation needed.

> More euros die of heat stroke than Americans die from gun violence.

Yes, gun violence is grossly overrepresented in the fears of most people, compared to how big the risks actually are.

And yet, the life expectancy in the US (79.3) is younger than EU as a whole (81.7), and also in the UK (81.3).

> Edit: NHS waitlists are double digit months to years. You have one of the worst birthing outcomes in the OECD. You have relatively poor cancer treatment outcomes

Given the US has the lower life expectancy, this is unfortunate… for you, not for everyone else.

Also, for birthing outcomes, the phrase "throwing stones in glass houses" comes to mind:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/child-mortality?time=2001...

[diordiderot]

> if you look at the right parts of the US

No, I’m saying almost the opposite.

Crime in the US is highly concentrated. A large share is committed by relatively small groups, in specific places, and follows a power-law pattern rather than being evenly spread across the country.

There are large, fully developed, highly populated parts of the US where you are very safe. Often moreso than places people assume are “safer” because they are outside America.

[ben_w]

> Crime in the US is highly concentrated. A large share is committed by relatively small groups, in specific places, and follows a power-law pattern rather than being evenly spread across the country.

Do you think crime in Europe is evenly spread across the whole continent? Or even that it's a constant rate within any geographical division of any nation in Europe?

Small groups doing crimes mostly to each other is not a novel thing unique to the USA. The (approximately) power-law relation is the same in places where stats exist to study the question: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40163-017-0069-x/...

I used to live in the UK, and in my 35 years there I was victimised a total of twice, one of which was an unattended bike left outdoors overnight; the safe middle-class south of Havant just wasn't targeted by roving gangs from the "rough" estate of Leigh Park in north Havant, even though that was absolutely walking distance, and a short walk at that.