[trumpdong]

In some tribal societies, everyone fucks everyone, whatever children are born are born, and since nobody knows who the father is they all care for all of them collectively.

Is it possible this is actually a better model than the nuclear family?

[lelanthran]

If it were a better model it wouldn't have survived in only the most primitive of societies.

[ben_w]

Even if it is, there's never any guarantee that something which works at the scale of a tribe can be transplanted to a nation of millions.

To a limited extent, the school system itself is how we collectively care for the next generation. How far can it be pushed in the direction you ask about?

[em-bee]

one idea is multi family homes. the idea is that instead if each family having having all their own space for themselves, you have a lot of shared spaces. consider that you need to be private, that's your bedroom and a bathroom. but you can share the kitchen, the living room, a play room, a reading room, a tv room. you don't have to share everything. there is a lot of flexibility in how you arrange the space, but the overall idea is that you have multiple families together, and because you share some things you also get to know each other better and kids can run around and feel at home everywhere. if you need a babysitter because you want to go out, you can simply check in with one of the other families if they are at home, and ask if it is ok if you go out.

the two main benefits are that parents get to know each other better, just like they would in a village, instead of being anonymous like we are most of the time, barely knowing who our neighbors are. and the sharing of resources. my dad loved books and music. i basically grew up in a library. it was nice when i had to make a school report that required some research, but it would not have hurt if those books would have been shared with a lot more people. ok, we have public libraries too, but you get the idea. by sharing resources you are able to get a lot more things that you would not be able to get if you lived alone.

[ben_w]

I've lived in a few things such as you describe and… it's variable. We kinda need a culture that fits them, as people right now are all over the place in terms of responsibility for shared spaces.

Not saying it can't be done, only that this is harder than the Nike slogan (just do it).

[em-bee]

you won't get an argument on that from me. it certainly takes work, good will and a desire for harmony. it takes a close community. that's why my life focus is on community building.

can you share more about the spaces where you lived?

saluton... ;-)

[ben_w]

> can you share more about the spaces where you lived?

The first few places were all at university: shared kitchen, shared laundry facilities, etc. and most had shared showers.

After I graduated, one of my partners was living in a HMO, I can't find any pics, but if you imagine a dozen big private rooms surrounding a central living area, a bunch of normal sized shower rooms also attached to it, and also a big communal kitchen with enough cupboard space for everyone to have their own.

More recently, though still 8 years ago, an older family member got Alzheimer's and both I and my brother wanted to help look after her, which ended up overcrowding the place with a normal UK semi-detached home having me, them, and my brother's whole family living in it while the builders slowly converted the garage into a granny annex for her, with its own min-kitchen and bathroom; by the time the annex was ready, we were all too stressed out and I made the move to Germany that I'd delayed in order to help look after her.

> saluton... ;-)

Ankaŭ Saluton! Mi ĝojas, ke iu legas mian uzantoprofilon ^_^;

[em-bee]

here is a comment thread in another discussion that relates to this question: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48435396